Comments on: To be a Mufti http://blog.islamicforumeurope.com/2009/11/05/to-be-a-mufti/ Some thoughts on the news, religion and life in general Mon, 14 Nov 2011 09:24:40 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Shaykh Wiki http://blog.islamicforumeurope.com/2009/11/05/to-be-a-mufti/comment-page-1/#comment-3048 Shaykh Wiki Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:14:41 +0000 http://blog.islamicforumeurope.com/?p=749#comment-3048 <a href="#comment-3035" rel="nofollow">@hamid </a> I agree with you hamid @hamid
I agree with you hamid

]]> By: Salman http://blog.islamicforumeurope.com/2009/11/05/to-be-a-mufti/comment-page-1/#comment-3039 Salman Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:31:12 +0000 http://blog.islamicforumeurope.com/?p=749#comment-3039 Please don’t get me wrong, I am not suggesting that Islam is over complicated and requires simplification to suit the modern mind. However, as you agree Brother Hamid, scholars of the past have written volumes and volumes of books touching every topic possible they had come across; their eloquence and deep insight into matters allows their works compiled hundreds of years ago to be relevant today. The fact that there was need to write volumes of books shows there was need to show the relevance of Islam to the people of their time and future generations. They addressed prevalent issues of their time which affected the muslims, they laid down complicated principles of Usul to protect the Shariah and responded to theological and philosophical attacks. Today, the Muslims face attacks of different nature from orientalist, secularists, liberalists and their friends but as far as I know there aren’t volumes and volumes of books being written with deep insight to prepare Muslims against these. One or two paragraphs or an article is not sufficient; the scholars need to be at the fore front. That’s my point. :) Please don’t get me wrong, I am not suggesting that Islam is over complicated and requires simplification to suit the modern mind. However, as you agree Brother Hamid, scholars of the past have written volumes and volumes of books touching every topic possible they had come across; their eloquence and deep insight into matters allows their works compiled hundreds of years ago to be relevant today. The fact that there was need to write volumes of books shows there was need to show the relevance of Islam to the people of their time and future generations. They addressed prevalent issues of their time which affected the muslims, they laid down complicated principles of Usul to protect the Shariah and responded to theological and philosophical attacks. Today, the Muslims face attacks of different nature from orientalist, secularists, liberalists and their friends but as far as I know there aren’t volumes and volumes of books being written with deep insight to prepare Muslims against these. One or two paragraphs or an article is not sufficient; the scholars need to be at the fore front. That’s my point. :)

]]> By: Shaykh Wiki http://blog.islamicforumeurope.com/2009/11/05/to-be-a-mufti/comment-page-1/#comment-3036 Shaykh Wiki Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:20:19 +0000 http://blog.islamicforumeurope.com/?p=749#comment-3036 How can we start to make excuses for the aspotacy of the apostate. The ruling is clear when they apostate, and it does not include to understand why the apostated and give them (70) excuses. How can we start to make excuses for the aspotacy of the apostate. The ruling is clear when they apostate, and it does not include to understand why the apostated and give them (70) excuses.

]]> By: hamid http://blog.islamicforumeurope.com/2009/11/05/to-be-a-mufti/comment-page-1/#comment-3035 hamid Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:49:18 +0000 http://blog.islamicforumeurope.com/?p=749#comment-3035 br salman, it appears that you are suggesting that islaam is extremely complicated. and that islaam needs to be re presented for the modern audience. Both these ideas are innaccurate. Islam is quite simple, with some rare exceptions. Issues pertaining to men and women are clearly outlined in quraan and sunnah and the works produced by the pious predecessors and the amazing 'ulamaa that came after them. In suggesting that it isn't 'black or white', many people would like to to say that "well, as things are very complicated in religion... let us practice islam how we choose and like. Let the ulamaa with ijaaza in ijtihaad solve those problems until then" The second idea is far more dangerous as it suggests that islaam is a limited religion, incomplete and possibly even irrelevant to our 'modern' times. Almost as though to say that the modern world has left islaam behind. God knew better and ensured that islaam and its teachings/message/ahkaam/laws were universal and timeless/eternal. That is why muhammad sas was the final prophet. Had modern times needed islaam to change, god would have sent a new prophet with a modern message. This thinking is dangerous and points to weaknesses in the faith that one has in his own religion, seeing that his religion is becoming outdated and falling behind. br a hasan. I agree with rational and muhammad. It seeks to apologise for the apostacy of the apostates by blaming the ulamaa and the muslims br salman, it appears that you are suggesting that islaam is extremely complicated.
and that islaam needs to be re presented for the modern audience.

Both these ideas are innaccurate. Islam is quite simple, with some rare exceptions. Issues pertaining to men and women are clearly outlined in quraan and sunnah and the works produced by the pious predecessors and the amazing ‘ulamaa that came after them. In suggesting that it isn’t ‘black or white’, many people would like to to say that “well, as things are very complicated in religion… let us practice islam how we choose and like. Let the ulamaa with ijaaza in ijtihaad solve those problems until then”

The second idea is far more dangerous as it suggests that islaam is a limited religion, incomplete and possibly even irrelevant to our ‘modern’ times. Almost as though to say that the modern world has left islaam behind.
God knew better and ensured that islaam and its teachings/message/ahkaam/laws were universal and timeless/eternal. That is why muhammad sas was the final prophet. Had modern times needed islaam to change, god would have sent a new prophet with a modern message.

This thinking is dangerous and points to weaknesses in the faith that one has in his own religion, seeing that his religion is becoming outdated and falling behind.

br a hasan. I agree with rational and muhammad. It seeks to apologise for the apostacy of the apostates by blaming the ulamaa and the muslims

]]> By: Salman http://blog.islamicforumeurope.com/2009/11/05/to-be-a-mufti/comment-page-1/#comment-3032 Salman Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:19:41 +0000 http://blog.islamicforumeurope.com/?p=749#comment-3032 Jzk brother for raising this important topic and I am not too sure why people wish to brush these issues under the carpet. The psychological and social engineering of the new generation Muslims is much different to the previous generations and those in the Muslim world. I feel through personal experience that the level of Islamic scholarship is ill prepared to satisfy their minds. I don't mean to generalise, there are obviously good scholars who are easily accessable and are able to articulate Islam to the 'modern' mind without watering it down. However, most of our scholars are not, still holding on to concepts and rules formulated to satisfy a completly different mindset. I sometimes flick through Muslim channels and I find myself thinking, 'what on earth is this shaykh talking about'. When it comes to these live Q&A shows on tv channels, the questioner needs to be blamed too. If someone really needs an Islamic advice on a matter, they should take the matter seriously and should discuss it properly with a scholar/Imam giving them opporunity to understand the questioner's circumstances, reality and whatever else is required to pass a sound judgement. Its the same with the Q&A websites, people often search using key words and find a fatwa on a particular issue when that fatwa could be an answer to something very specific. Its no wonder that sometimes two contradictory answers are found to questions by the same scholar. The modern mind needs to exercise some common... Jzk brother for raising this important topic and I am not too sure why people wish to brush these issues under the carpet. The psychological and social engineering of the new generation Muslims is much different to the previous generations and those in the Muslim world. I feel through personal experience that the level of Islamic scholarship is ill prepared to satisfy their minds. I don’t mean to generalise, there are obviously good scholars who are easily accessable and are able to articulate Islam to the ‘modern’ mind without watering it down. However, most of our scholars are not, still holding on to concepts and rules formulated to satisfy a completly different mindset. I sometimes flick through Muslim channels and I find myself thinking, ‘what on earth is this shaykh talking about’.

When it comes to these live Q&A shows on tv channels, the questioner needs to be blamed too. If someone really needs an Islamic advice on a matter, they should take the matter seriously and should discuss it properly with a scholar/Imam giving them opporunity to understand the questioner’s circumstances, reality and whatever else is required to pass a sound judgement. Its the same with the Q&A websites, people often search using key words and find a fatwa on a particular issue when that fatwa could be an answer to something very specific. Its no wonder that sometimes two contradictory answers are found to questions by the same scholar. The modern mind needs to exercise some common…

]]> By: Abdullah Hasan http://blog.islamicforumeurope.com/2009/11/05/to-be-a-mufti/comment-page-1/#comment-3031 Abdullah Hasan Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:31:43 +0000 http://blog.islamicforumeurope.com/?p=749#comment-3031 Assalamu alaikum, Rational thought - my main aim of the blog was to highlight some of the psychological aspects why people like Ayaan Hirsi Ali do what they do. To go into the details or explanaition of the hadith will require a longer post or a essay, and that is not the objective of BtL. Shayna - thank you for stopping by and we hope you will visit this blog more often. Wassalam Assalamu alaikum,

Rational thought – my main aim of the blog was to highlight some of the psychological aspects why people like Ayaan Hirsi Ali do what they do. To go into the details or explanaition of the hadith will require a longer post or a essay, and that is not the objective of BtL.

Shayna – thank you for stopping by and we hope you will visit this blog more often.

Wassalam

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