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		<title>By: Abu abdullah</title>
		<link>http://blog.islamicforumeurope.com/2008/07/29/how-to-create-your-own-islamophobia/comment-page-1/#comment-395</link>
		<dc:creator>Abu abdullah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 18:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For example - why were questions about the caliphate, hijab and segregation asked?
Or about people leaving Islam?

What do these have to do with &#039;extremism&#039; as related to &#039;terrorism&#039;?

Why did they report 1/3 support killing in the name of the religion when 28% said it was in defence of the religion, and the remaining for was to preserve the religion? And what do those questions mean in the first place?

And so what - when in one poll 1/3 of americans thought offensive wars to overthrow dictators were ok? isn&#039;t that 1/3 believe that killing in the name of democracy is justified?

It is clear they are scaremongering - we have nothing to be ashamed about in our deen

wasalam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For example &#8211; why were questions about the caliphate, hijab and segregation asked?<br />
Or about people leaving Islam?</p>
<p>What do these have to do with &#8216;extremism&#8217; as related to &#8216;terrorism&#8217;?</p>
<p>Why did they report 1/3 support killing in the name of the religion when 28% said it was in defence of the religion, and the remaining for was to preserve the religion? And what do those questions mean in the first place?</p>
<p>And so what &#8211; when in one poll 1/3 of americans thought offensive wars to overthrow dictators were ok? isn&#8217;t that 1/3 believe that killing in the name of democracy is justified?</p>
<p>It is clear they are scaremongering &#8211; we have nothing to be ashamed about in our deen</p>
<p>wasalam</p>
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		<title>By: Abu abdullah</title>
		<link>http://blog.islamicforumeurope.com/2008/07/29/how-to-create-your-own-islamophobia/comment-page-1/#comment-394</link>
		<dc:creator>Abu abdullah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 18:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to a report in 2007 - 51% of americans thought it may sometimes be justified to intentionally target killing civilians

This report is just another example of Islamophobia, it is not an issue of the questions and the replies, it is more a question of the analysis

That is why the statement of the MCB is unhelpful, it only attacks the sample size, which is a foolish point IMO - especially since some of those ISOCs mentioned are amongst the most liberal

wasalam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to a report in 2007 &#8211; 51% of americans thought it may sometimes be justified to intentionally target killing civilians</p>
<p>This report is just another example of Islamophobia, it is not an issue of the questions and the replies, it is more a question of the analysis</p>
<p>That is why the statement of the MCB is unhelpful, it only attacks the sample size, which is a foolish point IMO &#8211; especially since some of those ISOCs mentioned are amongst the most liberal</p>
<p>wasalam</p>
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		<title>By: Ali Abdullah</title>
		<link>http://blog.islamicforumeurope.com/2008/07/29/how-to-create-your-own-islamophobia/comment-page-1/#comment-392</link>
		<dc:creator>Ali Abdullah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 10:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This CSC &#039;report&#039; is so crass, that even the pro 42-day detention head of the BMF has signed this MCB statement!:-

Divisive Study for Divisive Ends
Wednesday 30 July 2008

British Muslim students have long contributed to the success of Britain. Muslim students have gone on to become doctors, business people and public servants, and all have been part of making Britain the vibrant society that it is today. &#039;Islam on Campus&#039; a survey published on Sunday that supposedly charts UK student opinion is silent on this, just as it is silent on seeking positive good practice examples of British Muslims reaching out, seeking the common good.

The latest report on British Muslim students by the Centre for Social Cohesion serves only to strengthen bigots and demagogues keen to sow discord amongst British people. The authors of the report cannot hide behind a purportedly scientific survey to justify their own agenda of creating anything but cohesion in society. We refer to more concrete polling data that illustrate the commitment British Muslims have to British society and the people around them. The authors cite their unsatisfactory sampling to extrapolate ideological and biased conclusions to serve their own divisive ends.

We are a cross-section of British people who believe in the importance of meaningful social cohesion, where British people from all backgrounds and persuasions can live together without maligning each other. The Centre for Social Cohesion is opposed to this, and we reject their conclusions utterly.

We do not deny that the terror threat is serious, nor do we object to the notion that separatism and bigotry should be challenged, including from within the Muslim community. However the report incorrectly ascribes guilt by tenuous association with those national Muslim organisations who have been firm and innovative on both counts. Moreover, these organisations are theologically diverse, and yet the study insinuates that they favour one Islamic tradition over another.

The report reserves a lot of its fire for the Islamic student societies that operate from campus up and down the country. We find it curious, therefore, that the report sough qualitative opinions from only twelve Islamic student societies, yet there are scores of Muslim student bodies in the UK -- hardly a representative sample. Islamic societies have done much to engage Muslim students with the mainstream. The study could have cited, for example, those Islamic societies that worked in partnership with those Jewish student societies to bring about greater understanding.

A report like this can only create discord amongst us. It has already done so with incendiary headlines such as &#039;Muslim students back killings&#039;. Muslim students do not back killings, they are not separatist, they are British and very much part of our vibrant society.

Signed by:

Wes Streeting - President, National Union of Students

Dr Muhammad Abdul Bari, Secretary General, The Muslim Council of Britain

Pav Akhtar, National Race Equality Officer, UNISON

Khurshid Ahmad, Chairman, British Muslim Forum

Milena Buyum, Vice-Chair, National Assembly Against Racism

Ahmad al-Rawi, Muslim Association of Britain

Faisal Hanjra - President, FOSIS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This CSC &#8216;report&#8217; is so crass, that even the pro 42-day detention head of the BMF has signed this MCB statement!:-</p>
<p>Divisive Study for Divisive Ends<br />
Wednesday 30 July 2008</p>
<p>British Muslim students have long contributed to the success of Britain. Muslim students have gone on to become doctors, business people and public servants, and all have been part of making Britain the vibrant society that it is today. &#8216;Islam on Campus&#8217; a survey published on Sunday that supposedly charts UK student opinion is silent on this, just as it is silent on seeking positive good practice examples of British Muslims reaching out, seeking the common good.</p>
<p>The latest report on British Muslim students by the Centre for Social Cohesion serves only to strengthen bigots and demagogues keen to sow discord amongst British people. The authors of the report cannot hide behind a purportedly scientific survey to justify their own agenda of creating anything but cohesion in society. We refer to more concrete polling data that illustrate the commitment British Muslims have to British society and the people around them. The authors cite their unsatisfactory sampling to extrapolate ideological and biased conclusions to serve their own divisive ends.</p>
<p>We are a cross-section of British people who believe in the importance of meaningful social cohesion, where British people from all backgrounds and persuasions can live together without maligning each other. The Centre for Social Cohesion is opposed to this, and we reject their conclusions utterly.</p>
<p>We do not deny that the terror threat is serious, nor do we object to the notion that separatism and bigotry should be challenged, including from within the Muslim community. However the report incorrectly ascribes guilt by tenuous association with those national Muslim organisations who have been firm and innovative on both counts. Moreover, these organisations are theologically diverse, and yet the study insinuates that they favour one Islamic tradition over another.</p>
<p>The report reserves a lot of its fire for the Islamic student societies that operate from campus up and down the country. We find it curious, therefore, that the report sough qualitative opinions from only twelve Islamic student societies, yet there are scores of Muslim student bodies in the UK &#8212; hardly a representative sample. Islamic societies have done much to engage Muslim students with the mainstream. The study could have cited, for example, those Islamic societies that worked in partnership with those Jewish student societies to bring about greater understanding.</p>
<p>A report like this can only create discord amongst us. It has already done so with incendiary headlines such as &#8216;Muslim students back killings&#8217;. Muslim students do not back killings, they are not separatist, they are British and very much part of our vibrant society.</p>
<p>Signed by:</p>
<p>Wes Streeting &#8211; President, National Union of Students</p>
<p>Dr Muhammad Abdul Bari, Secretary General, The Muslim Council of Britain</p>
<p>Pav Akhtar, National Race Equality Officer, UNISON</p>
<p>Khurshid Ahmad, Chairman, British Muslim Forum</p>
<p>Milena Buyum, Vice-Chair, National Assembly Against Racism</p>
<p>Ahmad al-Rawi, Muslim Association of Britain</p>
<p>Faisal Hanjra &#8211; President, FOSIS</p>
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		<title>By: shuaib</title>
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		<dc:creator>shuaib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree with the article in terms of the week architecture of the report which does not show the seeds of social cohesion on our communities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree with the article in terms of the week architecture of the report which does not show the seeds of social cohesion on our communities.</p>
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		<title>By: Amatullah</title>
		<link>http://blog.islamicforumeurope.com/2008/07/29/how-to-create-your-own-islamophobia/comment-page-1/#comment-379</link>
		<dc:creator>Amatullah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“The CSC has an unhealthy obsession with Muslims and Islam”

It&#039;s absolutely astonishing. All recent publications and events have revolved around Islam (or their version of it). It&#039;s even more astonishing that the government is willing to give a group that is so blatantly biased and imbalanced a platform at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“The CSC has an unhealthy obsession with Muslims and Islam”</p>
<p>It&#8217;s absolutely astonishing. All recent publications and events have revolved around Islam (or their version of it). It&#8217;s even more astonishing that the government is willing to give a group that is so blatantly biased and imbalanced a platform at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Wahida</title>
		<link>http://blog.islamicforumeurope.com/2008/07/29/how-to-create-your-own-islamophobia/comment-page-1/#comment-372</link>
		<dc:creator>Wahida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Questionnaires with pre-written options never give a true picture, people end up choosing a best fit. Whats worse in this case is the fact that the options are not even the same for all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Questionnaires with pre-written options never give a true picture, people end up choosing a best fit. Whats worse in this case is the fact that the options are not even the same for all!</p>
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