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	<title>Comments on: Dinner over two hours multiplied by 2 million Muslims</title>
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		<title>By: Amar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 11:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salam

Excellent start. We need more discussion around this subject. As I too feel that not enough is being done. 

What I gather from the article is this. No formulaic programme but personnel interaction which displays the exemplary character of Islam.

No formulaic answers but yes to education so that we understand Islam as understood by our predecessors. 

Islam was a dynamic force for firstly internal change and secondly external change. If through our personnel interactions we can change the views held by our non Muslim neighbours, then we have already begun to influence the politicians and media manipulators.  

I don’t believe that Islamic organisations can do this, nor do I believe they should. They have failed in any case. 

This should be grass roots approach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salam</p>
<p>Excellent start. We need more discussion around this subject. As I too feel that not enough is being done. </p>
<p>What I gather from the article is this. No formulaic programme but personnel interaction which displays the exemplary character of Islam.</p>
<p>No formulaic answers but yes to education so that we understand Islam as understood by our predecessors. </p>
<p>Islam was a dynamic force for firstly internal change and secondly external change. If through our personnel interactions we can change the views held by our non Muslim neighbours, then we have already begun to influence the politicians and media manipulators.  </p>
<p>I don’t believe that Islamic organisations can do this, nor do I believe they should. They have failed in any case. </p>
<p>This should be grass roots approach.</p>
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		<title>By: Usaama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Usaama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 08:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a elegant example of what is possible on the part of our community when it comes to dealing with problems of islamophobia, which we aren&#039;t doing enough to counter.

I think, as Musab mentioned above, that it&#039;s &#039;in the right direction&#039;, but I would add to that that we needn&#039;t necessarily be programmatic about it, by telling two miliion muslims to do the same--and I think that&#039;s not really what you&#039;re saying anyway--but what we do need is two things:

1. an encouragement of education in our community, which will naturally give rise to an ability to articulate, but before that, and more importantly, we need

2. spiritual well-being, or the seeds of it, so that people can truly reflect Islam in themselves; and this will also make sure that the &#039;articulation&#039; that arises from education is sincere and from the heart.

Just discussing these sorts of issues with civility will, in sha Allah, puts us on the right track, in sha Allah.

والله المستعان</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a elegant example of what is possible on the part of our community when it comes to dealing with problems of islamophobia, which we aren&#8217;t doing enough to counter.</p>
<p>I think, as Musab mentioned above, that it&#8217;s &#8216;in the right direction&#8217;, but I would add to that that we needn&#8217;t necessarily be programmatic about it, by telling two miliion muslims to do the same&#8211;and I think that&#8217;s not really what you&#8217;re saying anyway&#8211;but what we do need is two things:</p>
<p>1. an encouragement of education in our community, which will naturally give rise to an ability to articulate, but before that, and more importantly, we need</p>
<p>2. spiritual well-being, or the seeds of it, so that people can truly reflect Islam in themselves; and this will also make sure that the &#8216;articulation&#8217; that arises from education is sincere and from the heart.</p>
<p>Just discussing these sorts of issues with civility will, in sha Allah, puts us on the right track, in sha Allah.</p>
<p>والله المستعان</p>
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		<title>By: Yakoub</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yakoub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 05:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hoped I would have had the courage to similarly discuss the issues, but the phrase &quot;come to my country&quot; would have threatened an outbreak of World War III because this is MY country, too, and most Muslims who are here are descendents of people who are INVITED by Her Majesty&#039;s government to do jobs white people wouldn&#039;t. And if all you read is the tabloids, what do you really know? Grrrrrr!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hoped I would have had the courage to similarly discuss the issues, but the phrase &#8220;come to my country&#8221; would have threatened an outbreak of World War III because this is MY country, too, and most Muslims who are here are descendents of people who are INVITED by Her Majesty&#8217;s government to do jobs white people wouldn&#8217;t. And if all you read is the tabloids, what do you really know? Grrrrrr!</p>
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		<title>By: musab</title>
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		<dc:creator>musab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 02:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s a good article in the right direction.

I dont agree with the following because we need to develop and empower the muslims to carry out the task of removing the media and government  distortions:
&quot;Instead of having an inward-facing approach confined to the Muslims, we need to focus primarily on the non-Muslim community.&quot;

But for this to be achieved, we actually need more examples of how to actually articulate things.  I feel that most muslims have no idea how to articulate their point and so do not go out looking for the challenge and carrying out this individual dawah

Possibly we could benifit from further examples of your interactions, so we can learn to articulate.
jazakallah khaire</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s a good article in the right direction.</p>
<p>I dont agree with the following because we need to develop and empower the muslims to carry out the task of removing the media and government  distortions:<br />
&#8220;Instead of having an inward-facing approach confined to the Muslims, we need to focus primarily on the non-Muslim community.&#8221;</p>
<p>But for this to be achieved, we actually need more examples of how to actually articulate things.  I feel that most muslims have no idea how to articulate their point and so do not go out looking for the challenge and carrying out this individual dawah</p>
<p>Possibly we could benifit from further examples of your interactions, so we can learn to articulate.<br />
jazakallah khaire</p>
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